Ok..we have been debating and debating about this, but we are going to look at a different van.  It is used one of course but it has under 50,000 miles on it, but of course it is all the way in Princeton, MN .  We are going to try to meet the people 1/2 way and take a look at it.   I think the payment on the loan will be low enough that my pay raise in August and my monthly mileage reimbrsement will cover it.  It is always a crazy juggling game with our tight budget.  If this van looks as good as it sounds, we can’t pass it up at this low price.  Always leary buying from a private party.    Wish us luck!  Would be nice if we wouldn’t have to rent a van for our trip to South Dakota.  That would save us over $400.00.